Journalist Tom Oliphant is a regular guest on the show, and today was his day. I didn't listen to all of it, but I listened to some. Oliphant explained that he had come to the realization that the U.S. simply must quit this war. This didn't really surprise me; he said it was a repeat of what he realized about the Vietnam war in approximately 1966. As I expected, Al Franken sounded flabbergasted. Al Franken is one of those Democrats who has insisted on talking about completing some unspecified 'mission' in Iraq. The attitude is, at best, 'We have to do something!' What they avoid contemplating is that the best thing we can do is leave. Yes, it will all go to pieces in Iraq, but we cannot fix it by mitigating and prolonging the breakdown. But Al Franken never has AFAIK wrapped his brain around that one.
If we didn't want it to come to this, we shouldn't have invaded Iraq in the first place, never, in fact, should have inaugurated the illegitimate and 'mentally' ill George W. Bush in 2001. The best thing we can do may have terrible results, but it is the best thing we can do, nonetheless.
I wonder what it is like to believe there is some vague 'mission' we can accomplish in Iraq with continued military abuse—what it is like to believe you are sending people on a 'mission' when in fact you are sending them to kill and be killed for nought, and so many people can see that is what you are doing.